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    R. Jorgensen to E. Persidis

Dear Mr. Persidis:


Your comments are most unusual as the ITKF does not have an ITKF National Federation member in Greece.  I have been informed by our ITKF administrative staff that the Greek Federation has not been active since well before the passing of our Founding President, Sensei Hidetaka Nishiyama.  Consequently, it has lost its membership status within ITKF many years ago and has received a number of notices in this regard.   It is therefore quite natural that you have not received any reports from the ITKF as these internal documents and reports are only sent to current National Federation members of the ITKF.


However, I also wish to correct a serious misconception and accusation that you are promoting.  The selection of the date of the seminar, July 12-18, 2013, is the direct result of the need to cancel the San Diego Summer Camp due to changes in the university process that would not allow confirmation of training facilities in time for the Summer Camp slated for these same dates.  Since the Summer Camp instructors, Board and Technical Committee members have already arranged this time in their schedule, it is more convenient for them to change a location than a date within their busy schedules.  Our European/Balkan Regional Traditional Karate Organizations graciously invited ITKF to substitute this location in Greece – one which they have used successfully for similar events for many years, without incident.


Should your Federation wish to once again become a member of ITKF, I will have the office provide you with the necessary application forms and process.




R. Jorgensen, Chairman

International Traditional Karate Federation

The answers is in the 29/6/2013b.


  Summarising the Caesar's Frauds from September 19, 2012. 

 This is why we are not an Olympic Sport. 



Copyright © 1945-2045 Thymios Persidis, Fraud Hunter by Hobby!



 Comments 19/9/2012:  


As you see, the minutes of the meeting is close to stories for children! In a glimpse:


 - First of all, the General Meeting took place on November 11, 2010, and the ITKF International Office send the Minutes to the member federations with the Speed of ... Light on September 19, 2012!

2 - They write the countries without mention the representatives of each country. (Did the ... countries be there?)

3 - There is no Agenda, the issues for discussion in series. 

4 - In the Chairman's Report has been written: "Financial Statements were presented, discussed and approved", but no financial report accompanies the Minutes! Where the money have gone???

5 - The Legal Advice Committee is created by four layers (!!!) for a world federation without a legal status until that day and the same afterwards until to today!!! What they did before and after that General Meeting???

6 - A Marketing Committee is created to "open" an e-shop in order to "Develop and recommend a line of ITKF products"!

7 - The Budget analysis was not anything else but the "ITKF invoice politics" for dan, couches, and judges registration fees!!! No proof data for the ITKF incomes of these reasons for the past two years!!!

8 - "Qualifications, Registrations and Renewals will be a measurement of Membership participation as outlined in the Membership Criteria within the Business Plan."   The result is "As much you pay, you double vote! As less you pay, you loose your voting right!"

9 - The Minutes must be accompanied by the regional Reports! NO-Report was accompanying the Minutes!

10 - The first subjects that might be discussed are the regional reports for the previous period and afterwards anything else! They took them upside down!

11 - Finally, no report from anybody for any work for the last two years was discussed, like ITKF did not exist!!!


 Comments 7/12/2012:  


12 - He was a little bit late, but he finally got the good idea:  "$2000 each, but we accept anything you have the pleasure!!!"


"ITKF Legal Fund Established to Pursue Court Action re: IOC Recognition"


Where is the Money???


 Comments 2/1/2013:  


12 - From the Attachments: "One": The envelop proves that ITKF correspond with "its member" GTKF! "Two": the letter proves that the Chairman urges the "ITKF members" to pay their annual fees, of which he does not give any financial report with the Minutes of 2010 General Meeting. "Three": the "invoice" (which is illegal as we will see) and the bank account for the payment prove that "GTKF is an ITKF member". "Four": For our convenience ITKF gives alternative ways of payment! "Five": This is the bonus-malus in voting rights of how much you pay !!!


 Comments 15/1/2012:  


 12a - Unlawful interference of Mr. Vladimir Yorga in the internals of the Greek Traditional Karate Federation!



 Comments on the 11/5/2013 letter of Mr. Jorgensen "TO ALL ITKF BOARD OF DIRECTORS" with Re: Cancellation of Proposed ITKF World Cup, Lublin, Poland  (Attachment 1, above):


13 - The man is mad!!! For such a very serious matter, as the World Cup is, he calls the Board of Directors (what kind of directors are they ???) to cancel it according to his opinion and without any written proof of nullity!!!

14 - The man is two times mad!!! He is blackmailing the result of the others' opinion with the phrase: "I request your mail-in vote regarding this recommendation to via return e-mail by Friday, May 15, 2013 at 5:00 pm EST. Non-participation in this vote will be taken as confirmation of this recommendation." 

Only Hitler had the vote of the ... deads!!!

 Comments 17/5/2013:  

15 - In the above letter to Mr. Janus, he writes: "The intention of my comment regarding non-participation was not intended to defy democracy – but rather to ensure prompt participation – which it did."  Sorry, I cannot follow him! I only can hold my ... belly from laughs!!!

 Comments 18/5/2013:


16 - The only thing that the above correspondence shows is that the Polish Federation tried in deed to follow the right procedure and nothing else. The one thing that bothered Mr. Jorgensen was the Press Conference to the Media! Only one is the ... Caesar!!!

 Comments 20/6/2013:


17 - On 14 June 2013 in Lublin (Poland) the International Conference “Quo Vadis ITKF?” took place.

The letter from the ITKF Vice-President Mr. Wlodzimierz Kwiecinski describes with evidences in a shocking way the actions and omissions of  Richard Jorgensen and ITKF Office, which brought the ITKF in the today situation of destruction. Some of them are:

1. Serious violation of the ITKF Constitution.

2. Non-existing communication between the ITKF Chairman and the ITKF Directors on current important issues.

3. Attempt of money extortion from an ITKF Member Federation.

4. Illegal money collection.

5. Fabrication of documents.

6. Ignoring the decisions of the ITKF Board of Directors.

7. Acting against the law.

The conclusion of the conference was that the ITKF Chairman Mr. Richard Jorgensen treats the ITKF as a private business company and makes most decisions unilaterally without approval of the ITKF Board of Directors thus breaking the ITKF Constitution and the voting procedure. He also made self-appointment for the ITKF President without confirmation by the ITKF General Meeting, which is the constitutional requirement.


19 - In the above letter are included the accusations of the following paragraph:

"On 15 June 2013 the ITKF Office sent announcement about new location of the 2013 ITKF International Summer Camp – Nea Flogita, Halkidiki (Greece) instead of San Diego (USA) . It was to my big astonishment because the 2013 ITKF Summer Camp has never been put in the ITKF schedule for the 2013 year. The organization of this event was not discussed with the ITKF Technical Committee Directors and was never approved by the ITKF Board of Directors. This is private initiative of Mr. Jorgensen. In this announcement there is information that the camp will be co-hosted by the European Traditional Karate Federation (ETKF). As the ETKF Vice-President I have had no knowledge of this fact! Moreover, we can read that the camp trainings will be conducted by top masters and the ITKF Technical Committee Members – but no names are given except for Mr. Richard Jorgensen. I would like to explicitly point that the Summer Camp organized by Mr. Jorgensen in Greece on 12-18 July 2013 is not the ITKF event. It does not follow the ITKF standards and as such cannot offer any ITKF Technical Qualification examinations (for the ITKF Instructors, Judges, Examiners.) or ITKF Dan Ranking examinations. Last but not least – there has been no active ITKF Member Federation in Greece for several years."


20 - During the above conference the required quorum was created for a call of a ITKF Extraordinary General Meeting, which will be held on 17 August 2013 (Saturday) in Stara Wieś (Poland). To clean ITKF is a priority for the ITKF member federations. GTKF agrees with this decision!


 Comments 24/6/2013:


21 - What kind of people are they, when they go into a foreign country and organize a seminar with the sole purpose to collect $1200 per "idiot", who is going to take a useless diploma, in spite of the refusal of the official federation of the country to allow it???  We Greeks never start a war! But if you insist, why not!!!


22 - Does this fact reflects the morals that the federations members of ITKF would want to demonstrate the presidents of the global and European TKF as well as the administration Office of ITKF???

Can these people represent the national federations of Traditional Karate to Olympic Committee toward the Olympic Recognition???

 Comments 26/6/2013a:


23 - Here, now, we have a President of a world federation:

-- who in every letter of him invokes a statute which does not exist,

-- who, on a permanent base, invokes the memory of Master Nishiyama not of respect to him but for taking power from the respect of the others to Master Nishiyama,

-- who has the permanent habit to distort the truth and to act without any control,

-- who collects money with any kind of ideas and hides the management of finances ($700,000 approximately every year) of the world federation from the national federations-members,

-- who demands annual fees from federations for which he claims "they are not members",

-- who gives illegal seminars in foreign country, when the legal national federation of this country prohibit to him to organize such seminars,

-- who invokes decisions of Board of Directors, which never is convened,

-- who baptizes "decision of ITKF Legal Committee" the poor opinion of his lawyer,

-- who "deletes" national federations as if they are ... bugs!!!

-- who, ... who, ... who, ...


I think we have a case for the ... psychiatrist!!! He is starting to be dangerous!!!

We must take him by the hand and show him the EXIT!!!

"Julius Caesars" are welcomed to every ... madhouse!!! I don't believe that ITKF is a madhouse!!!  DO YOU???